Women, appetite, and male fear — UPDATED

I know you’re all eager to know what I’m lecturing on this afternoon. Oh. You’re not? Here goes anyway…

We’re working this week on an interesting issue in body history: the relationship between the appetite, eating disorders, and female sexual desire. In her seminal (sorry) work “Fasting Girls“, Joan Brumberg traced the development in the 19th century of ideas about young women’s desire for food and their simultaneous sexual maturation:

The health of young women was definitely influenced by a general female fashion for sickness and debility… to the physician’s mind, a young woman caught up in the process of sexual maturation was subject to vagaries of appetite and peculiar cravings. Thoughout the medical and advice literature an active appetite or appetite for particular foods (especially meat or spicy items) was used as a trope for a dangerous sexuality. Mary Wood-Allen warned young readers that girls who masturbated ‘will manifest an unnatural appetite, sometimes desiring mustard, pepper, vinegar and spices, salt, etc.’ Because appetite was regarded as a barometer of sexuality, both mothers and daughters were concerned about its expression and control. A good mother was expected to manage this situation before it escalated into a medical or social problem.

With great understatement, Brumberg says that as a result of this Victorian conflation of sexuality and food,

Bourgeois society generated anxieties about food and eating — especially among women.

My students, initially, see little parallel between these notions and the contemporary American situation. But as Susan Bordo points out in Unbearable Weight (another instant classic in the field), that even in modern culture,

Eating is not really a metaphor for the sexual act; rather, the sexual act, when initiated and desired by a woman, is imagined itself as an act of eating, of incorporation and destruction of the object of desire. Thus women’s appetites must be curtailed and controlled, because they threaten to deplete and consume the body and soul of the male.

Bordo references the tiresome 1980s Hall and Oates song “Maneater“:

I wouldn’t if I were you
I know what she can do
She’s deadly man, she could really rip your world apart
Mind over matter
Ooh, the beauty is there but a beast is in the heart

(Oh-oh, here she comes) Watch out boy she’ll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes) She’s a maneater
(Oh-oh, here she comes) Watch out boy she’ll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes) She’s a maneater

What’s the point? I’m convinced that even as we teach young girls ever more extreme strategies to make themselves objects of desire, we remain decidedly fearful about women — of any age — as agents of desire. To eat is to satisfy one’s body’s demands. A woman who feeds herself in response to hunger, who eats to satiety, may well be a woman who might make similar demands upon men. In a world where men are increasingly anxious about their abilities to satisfy women sexually (witness the veritable explosion of drugs to treat impotence), one unconscious strategy to cope with that fear is to depress women’s appetites. Given the longstanding connection between sexuality and eating in women’s lives, it thus follows (according to Bordo, Brumberg, and others) that our cultural obsession with controlling what women put in their mouths is, at least in part, a manifestation of a fear about the power of women’s sexuality. In this analysis, our culture “reads” a slender woman as submissive and undemanding; she is “safe” for a man who doubts his own ability to satisfy her. Thinness is thus less about aesthetics and more about a twisted combination of morality and anxiety.

We’ll see where the discussion goes.

UPDATE: Had a great discussion this afternoon, focusing on the phrase “too much“. I asked how many of my female students had ever been told that they were “too much”. When applied to a man, it refers to his sense of humor: “Oh, that Hugo, he’s too much.” When applied to a woman, it has a far more condemnatory tone: “She’s too loud, too obnoxious, too aggressive, too sexual, too hungry, too demanding, too much like a man.” Virtually all of my students had stories about being warned — usually early in adolescence — about eating too much, showing too much, talking too much, asking for too much. A few also related deeper fears that they were too much: too intense, too filled with emotion, too complex and needy to ever be loved or understood. We talked at length about how what we often perceive a woman as being “too much” when she makes reasonable requests to be treated like a human being and to be allowed to have the same desires (and the opportunity to satisfy those desires) as her brothers.

I realized today, not for the first time, that when we men tell women that they are “too much”, we are really asking them to lower their expectations for us. Often, the demands that “uppity” women make on men are demands not so much for sexual performance (or a nice meal) as they are that we men simply show up emotionally and physically and engage them as fellow rational human beings. That’s a scary thing for many men, and it is far easier to label otherwise natural and reasonable requests as evidence that a woman is “too much.”

10 thoughts on “Women, appetite, and male fear — UPDATED

  1. Interesting thoughts — though I have to admit, I’m not sure I make the connection in today’s context. Let me offer instead a thought inspired by this post and see where it goes.

    It’s perceived as very attractive, almost sexual, for a woman to visually dislay her pleasure when eating delicious food. And yet it is always, always rendered unattractive if she eats “too much.” Who hasn’t been at a party, and incredibly hungry, and yet stayed away from seconds for fear that she would look like a glutton?

    It’s not food in particular that I think connects agression and sexuality. I think it’s agressiveness in general, pursuit of what is not being offered to one, that is still generally disapproved of by society (though some men will always claim, honestly or no, that it ‘turns them on’). There is in many ways a “don’t speak until spoken to” mentality. The woman who approaches the man is viewed in the long run not as appropriately assertive but inappropriately undiscerning, desperate.

    I had more thoughts but I’ll save them. It’s hard to write about internalized passivity and sexuality without oversharing personal information.

  2. The woman who approaches the man is viewed in the long run not as appropriately assertive but inappropriately undiscerning, desperate.

    Oh, that is well put, Candace. And food is not the source of this connection between appetitiveness and sexuality, but it is the most obvious and universal example of how we regulate women’s desires, both “for their own good” AND to soothe male anxiety.

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  4. Beware the passive voice. As with everyone’s favorite bogeymen, “society” and “they,” a generic reference to what “is expected” of someone often tells you more about the perceptions of the individual speaking than it does about the actual views held by society at large.

    Speaking for no one but myself, I certainly don’t view a woman as “inappropriately discerning” or “desperate” solely because she approaches a man rather than wait around for him to (maybe) approach her. If I thought that about the last woman who approached me, I probably wouldn’t have married her.

  5. I “needed” to be thin in my previous (very image-conscious) job. I swear was hungry for a whole decade. Now I’m not so thin – just average. And I swear, practically no-one even notices the difference.

  6. Excellent post. I completely agree with everything you said.

    (I demand points for brevity! I could have gone for for ten pages, but it all boiled down to that.)

  7. Fascinating post, and I think this is a very solid theory. I’d also like to point out that a woman who isn’t eating enough isn’t likely to be strong enough to be assertive – not having fed herself properly, her brain won’t exactly be functioning at full steam, so to speak.

    I’ve never really considered the ‘too much’ issue, and that, too, is very interesting to think about!

  8. I’ve been thinking about this post in terms of the conversation last week about modesty, and trying to sort out the relationship between modesty and passivity or sexual repression. It’s easy, in theory, to talk about modesty as empowering, revealing clothing as objectifying. But in practice, I know that I often experience dressing modestly as a masking of my sexuality–I cover myself at moments when I am not thinking of myself as a sexual creature, or when I don’t want others to see me as one. Conversely, I do feel like wearing more revealing clothing is empowering, a way of saying to myself and the world, “This is my body, I’m comfortable in it, I’m happy if you derive pleasure from watching me but I will decide what I do with it, and with whom.”

    Where’s the limit between possibly-desirable modesty, on the one hand, and repression of women’s sexual desire, on the other? (I’m not really looking for an answer–I think at the end of the day it’s a question of context and individual comfort rather than sweeping moral or ethical guideline–but I am wondering if others have experienced or thought about this tension.)