Comments on: Early good news http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/ Author, Speaker, Professor, Shattering Gender Myths Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:44:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hugo Schwyzer http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14829 Hugo Schwyzer Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:43:17 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14829 Stentor's technically right. What will make November 2008 different (<em>deo volente, baruch hashem, </em>etc.) is that in a state where marriage is already a reality for same-sex couples, voters will be asked to either dissolve those marriages or embrace them. And if they embrace them, as I suspect they will (by a narrow margin, natch), the religious right will have lost their key argument that the voters of a state had never given straight (sorry) approval to gay marriages. Stentor’s technically right. What will make November 2008 different (deo volente, baruch hashem, etc.) is that in a state where marriage is already a reality for same-sex couples, voters will be asked to either dissolve those marriages or embrace them. And if they embrace them, as I suspect they will (by a narrow margin, natch), the religious right will have lost their key argument that the voters of a state had never given straight (sorry) approval to gay marriages.

]]> By: Craig http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14828 Craig Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:48:00 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14828 Wait, by "anti-marriage," did you mean "against gay marriage?" If so, ignore that last message; I'm too used to hearing this discussion through the "pro-family" dialect. Wait, by “anti-marriage,” did you mean “against gay marriage?” If so, ignore that last message; I’m too used to hearing this discussion through the “pro-family” dialect.

]]> By: Craig http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14827 Craig Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:44:57 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14827 <i>...we in Arizona defeated an anti-marriage ballot measure in 2006.</i> Arizona is a pretty standard red state. California, not so much. …we in Arizona defeated an anti-marriage ballot measure in 2006.

Arizona is a pretty standard red state. California, not so much.

]]> By: Stentor http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14826 Stentor Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:28:54 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14826 <i>it looks like gay marriage is en route to its first ever victory at the ballot box.</i> Not so fast there -- we in Arizona defeated an anti-marriage ballot measure in 2006. it looks like gay marriage is en route to its first ever victory at the ballot box.

Not so fast there — we in Arizona defeated an anti-marriage ballot measure in 2006.

]]> By: Mermade http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14825 Mermade Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:34:18 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14825 Indeed! ;-) Indeed! ;-)

]]> By: Hugo Schwyzer http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14824 Hugo Schwyzer Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:42:04 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14824 Indeed. How often have progressives found a way to snatch defeat from near-certain victory? The tally of disappointments is great indeed. Indeed. How often have progressives found a way to snatch defeat from near-certain victory? The tally of disappointments is great indeed.

]]> By: Craig http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14823 Craig Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:27:16 +0000 http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/07/18/early-good-news/#comment-14823 I'll believe that when I <a href="http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/nov/nov01.html" rel="nofollow">see it</a>. One can't be too pessimistic regarding politics, I always say. I’ll believe that when I see it. One can’t be too pessimistic regarding politics, I always say.

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