Comments on: Of things much discussed…

By: Gil

Gil — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:30:02 +0000

Um, Jesus wasn’t a community organizer…
In fact, I think anytime anyone actually understood anything he said besides his disciples, there was a sudden disorganized rush to kill him.
And, while Pilate was a governor, the people voted for a murderer over Jesus… (Are we seeing how the situation is totally different than the current one?)
Of course, it’s interesting how all the people who freak out about people who express their Christianity are the ones who are now using this phrase.
To boot, neither was elected, at least not by the communities they led.
My thinking in all this is to remember Jesus words, which are actually in the Bible, as opposed to this phrase.
Jesus says, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above.”
I’m not really worried.
Obama IS NOT Jesus.
Nor is Palin Pilate.
God’s going to get done what he wants to get done. I don’t think it matters if Obama or Biden or McCain or Palin is President. God’s God. He’s going to do reality how He wants it.
To think that the President of the USA is going to change the course of history is arrogant.
Where were you, Job?
Anyway, those are my two cents. Take them or leave them.

By: bmmg39

bmmg39 — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:09:27 +0000

“Iâ€™m well aware of Jindalâ€™s up-and-coming statusâ€¦which is specifically why I used him. His cohort (which includes Palin) handily represents the theocratic urges that increasingly dominate the GOP.”

I’m just fine with church/state separatist groups so long as they don’t overstep their bounds into issues not religious. One can oppose embryonic stem-cell research and partial-birth abortion, for examples, without coming from a religious point of view.

By: The Gonzman

The Gonzman — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:40:22 +0000

I do too, Lee. And it’s also true that Dr. King was a Republican….

http://www.trustedpartner.com/docs/library/000143/Alevda%20King%20-%20Dr.%20Martin%20Luther%20King%20Jr%20Was%20A%20Republican.wmv

…And George Wallace was a Democrat.

By: Original Lee

Original Lee — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:16:01 +0000

As I have said on other blogs, I prefer the King/Wallace version over the Jesus/Pilate version. We don’t need to push the (false) meme that (we think) Obama is the Messiah or the antisemitic undertone (because we all know Pilate was only acting under extreme pressure from those uppity Jewish elites, right?).

By: Craig

Craig — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:06:27 +0000

bmmg39, you couldn’t have missed my point more if you’d tried. I was playing off of Carlton’s Jesus/Pilate dichotomy with my own: separation of church and state vs. legislated creationism.

I’m well aware of Jindal’s up-and-coming status…which is specifically why I used him. His cohort (which includes Palin) handily represents the theocratic urges that increasingly dominate the GOP.

By: bmmg39

bmmg39 — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:42:28 +0000

“Instead, this was a slap in the face of all community organizers and volunteers. Very snobby, Iâ€™d say.”

Then the Obama camp insulted everyone who’s ever been active in local government. Can’t have it both ways.

“Sheâ€™s barely been a governor, and before that she was a mayor of a small town. I think itâ€™s fair to question how much experience she has.”

And the answer to that question is: “Almost two years more executive experience than any of the other people on the two major tickets.” That doesn’t even include her time as mayor. Perhaps she won’t say something so frighteningly naÃ¯ve as The Anointed One’s comment that we needn’t worry about Iran because it’s such a “tiny” country.

By: The Gonzman

The Gonzman — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:26:42 +0000

Antigone –

Not very concerned when that lack of experience from the bottom half of the ticket on one side compares more favorably to the experience from the top of the ticket on the other. But I can see why Sen. Obama is taking that track. It’s far easier than comparing his experience to Sen. McCain’s.

Or does that somehow become irrelevant?

By: Antigone

Antigone — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:24:15 +0000

Bmmg39-

“Unjustifiably”? She’s barely been a governor, and before that she was a mayor of a small town. I think it’s fair to question how much experience she has.

By: Ben

Ben — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 02:12:36 +0000

bmmg39,

Palin explicitly referred to being a community organizer in the generic sense; if she had simply said “… sort of like Obama’s experience as a community organizer”, then it still would have been insulting, but at least she’d be just insulting one person who happens to be her political opponent. Instead, this was a slap in the face of all community organizers and volunteers. Very snobby, I’d say.

By: bmmg39

bmmg39 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:46:33 +0000

Craig: “Americans United is a community organization. Bobby Jindal is a governor.”

That doesn’t strengthen your case, Craig, just so you know. Jindal is one of the bright young prospects in politics (as are Obama and Palin), and four or eight years down the road, HE may be on one of the major tickets. Why not say that Mother Teresa is a community organizer, while Slick Willie was a governor? See how that works?

And, as has been stated, Palin made that crack only because people are unjustifiably questioning HER credentials.