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		<title>By: Auntie Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15915</link>
		<dc:creator>Auntie Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugo, nice to meetcha, you betcha (ha, ha),

I&#039;m delirious...Here&#039;s a Christian with an ethical consciousness.  

Personally, I believe in spirituality, not religiousity.  

I am an independent voter and an animal rights advocate.

I was looking for an answer to Prop 11.  It was very confusing.  There seemed to be a great deal of money behind it.  But also the Leagus of Women Voters.  Then,  just for a bizarre anomaly:  Did you know that one faction of the NAACP is PRO and one faction is CON?  Wierd.

Somehow, I navigated to your site and, surprisingly, you and I agreed on every Prop except for the one I hadn&#039;t yet chosen yet, Prop 11.

That convinced me to vote YES on 11.  Like minds and all.

So here&#039;s one voter who went straight down the line with &quot;your&quot; ticket choices.  Unusual because I hardly ever follow anyone&#039;s exactly.

Thanks for your blog...

Auntie Carol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo, nice to meetcha, you betcha (ha, ha),</p>
<p>I&#8217;m delirious&#8230;Here&#8217;s a Christian with an ethical consciousness.  </p>
<p>Personally, I believe in spirituality, not religiousity.  </p>
<p>I am an independent voter and an animal rights advocate.</p>
<p>I was looking for an answer to Prop 11.  It was very confusing.  There seemed to be a great deal of money behind it.  But also the Leagus of Women Voters.  Then,  just for a bizarre anomaly:  Did you know that one faction of the NAACP is PRO and one faction is CON?  Wierd.</p>
<p>Somehow, I navigated to your site and, surprisingly, you and I agreed on every Prop except for the one I hadn&#8217;t yet chosen yet, Prop 11.</p>
<p>That convinced me to vote YES on 11.  Like minds and all.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s one voter who went straight down the line with &#8220;your&#8221; ticket choices.  Unusual because I hardly ever follow anyone&#8217;s exactly.</p>
<p>Thanks for your blog&#8230;</p>
<p>Auntie Carol</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15914</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aphrael, you&#039;re splendid.  Made my day.  Thanks!  (Not from me, but from the animals!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aphrael, you&#8217;re splendid.  Made my day.  Thanks!  (Not from me, but from the animals!)</p>
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		<title>By: aphrael</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15913</link>
		<dc:creator>aphrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugo, for what it&#039;s worth, at your request, I reconsidered my position on Proposition 2 and voted &#039;Yes&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo, for what it&#8217;s worth, at your request, I reconsidered my position on Proposition 2 and voted &#8216;Yes&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; California Ballot Propositions, and other election information</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15912</link>
		<dc:creator>Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; California Ballot Propositions, and other election information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has his ballot proposition endorsements up. I&#8217;m behind him, and haven&#8217;t looked at them all yet, but I&#8217;d better do so if [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has his ballot proposition endorsements up. I&#8217;m behind him, and haven&#8217;t looked at them all yet, but I&#8217;d better do so if [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15911</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I talk you into a &quot;Yes&quot; on 1 and 11?  1 (or 1A) will end up saving us a fortune in the long run -- we need high speed rail desperately as we transition away from our reliance on cars... and 11 will cost nothing, but could improve the quality of the folks in Sacramento.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I talk you into a &#8220;Yes&#8221; on 1 and 11?  1 (or 1A) will end up saving us a fortune in the long run &#8212; we need high speed rail desperately as we transition away from our reliance on cars&#8230; and 11 will cost nothing, but could improve the quality of the folks in Sacramento.</p>
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		<title>By: Kala</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15910</link>
		<dc:creator>Kala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you in voting yes on 2, and no on the awful 4 and 8.  

But I won&#039;;t vote for any of the bonds!  We just can&#039;t keep borrowing money.

I&#039;m voting &quot;NO&quot; on everything EXCEPT for 2. Yes for the animals, and the animals only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you in voting yes on 2, and no on the awful 4 and 8.  </p>
<p>But I won&#8217;;t vote for any of the bonds!  We just can&#8217;t keep borrowing money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m voting &#8220;NO&#8221; on everything EXCEPT for 2. Yes for the animals, and the animals only.</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15909</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Judge Mary Wiss spoke out against Proposition 5, I took a very close look at it - I have an enormous amount of respect for Judge Wiss. It&#039;s a horrible idea. The last thing drug addicts need for their recovery is LESS consequences and LESS oversight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Judge Mary Wiss spoke out against Proposition 5, I took a very close look at it &#8211; I have an enormous amount of respect for Judge Wiss. It&#8217;s a horrible idea. The last thing drug addicts need for their recovery is LESS consequences and LESS oversight.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15908</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re worried about &quot;time&quot;, Prop. 2 is a phase-in program: it&#039;s not required until 2015 that all cages be in compliance.  The economy will be in a very different place by then.  And we do have free-range farmers who are doing very well.

Go to your local grocery store.  Look at the free-range eggs.  Are they that much more expensive?  It&#039;s about 50 cents additional for a dozen eggs at my local Ralphs.

See this UC Davis study, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/press_releases/ucdavisstudyprop2_072308.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;referenced here.&lt;/a&gt;
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This latest study also affirms the previous estimate by a California-based poultry economist, who has written that raising egg-laying hens in &quot;cage-free&quot; facilities costs less than a penny per egg more than cramming them into tiny cages. The UC researchers estimate that the cost differential is even less than this previous claim.

&quot;Even though the researchers are aligned with and funded by opponents of Prop 2, their work confirms that consumers won&#039;t pay higher prices as a result of the measure,&quot; said Jennifer Fearing, campaign manager for the Yes on 2 campaign. &lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re worried about &#8220;time&#8221;, Prop. 2 is a phase-in program: it&#8217;s not required until 2015 that all cages be in compliance.  The economy will be in a very different place by then.  And we do have free-range farmers who are doing very well.</p>
<p>Go to your local grocery store.  Look at the free-range eggs.  Are they that much more expensive?  It&#8217;s about 50 cents additional for a dozen eggs at my local Ralphs.</p>
<p>See this UC Davis study, <a href="http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/press_releases/ucdavisstudyprop2_072308.html" rel="nofollow">referenced here.</a><br />
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This latest study also affirms the previous estimate by a California-based poultry economist, who has written that raising egg-laying hens in &#8220;cage-free&#8221; facilities costs less than a penny per egg more than cramming them into tiny cages. The UC researchers estimate that the cost differential is even less than this previous claim.</p>
<p>&#8220;Even though the researchers are aligned with and funded by opponents of Prop 2, their work confirms that consumers won&#8217;t pay higher prices as a result of the measure,&#8221; said Jennifer Fearing, campaign manager for the Yes on 2 campaign. </em></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15907</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugo, I&#039;m taking an Inspector Clouseau approach to Prop 2, and considering it with the bond measures too (maybe with the exception of the high speed rail one): &quot;Now is not the time.&quot;  With the bonds, the state is having to go to the feds to borrow money to keep the state government running, the credit market is making borrowing money pretty tough for everyone.  With Prop 2: my objection has been that, given the economy right now and how people are getting squeezed, something that has the potential to raise the price of foodstuffs as well as maybe nuking farmers in this state seems very ill-timed.  I get that you probably wouldn&#039;t want people farming or eating eggs or chickens under any circumstances, and I get it from that perspective.  But can you make an argument as to why I ought to vote for it anyways for Prop 2 when I do eat both, and taking those current economic concerns into account?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugo, I&#8217;m taking an Inspector Clouseau approach to Prop 2, and considering it with the bond measures too (maybe with the exception of the high speed rail one): &#8220;Now is not the time.&#8221;  With the bonds, the state is having to go to the feds to borrow money to keep the state government running, the credit market is making borrowing money pretty tough for everyone.  With Prop 2: my objection has been that, given the economy right now and how people are getting squeezed, something that has the potential to raise the price of foodstuffs as well as maybe nuking farmers in this state seems very ill-timed.  I get that you probably wouldn&#8217;t want people farming or eating eggs or chickens under any circumstances, and I get it from that perspective.  But can you make an argument as to why I ought to vote for it anyways for Prop 2 when I do eat both, and taking those current economic concerns into account?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schwyzer</title>
		<link>http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2008/10/10/california-proposition-endorsements/#comment-15906</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schwyzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aphrael, I plead with you to read all of the excellent editorials by every major newspaper in the state (and out of the state) in favor of Prop 2.  It&#039;s not just us tofu-sucking vegans who back it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aphrael, I plead with you to read all of the excellent editorials by every major newspaper in the state (and out of the state) in favor of Prop 2.  It&#8217;s not just us tofu-sucking vegans who back it&#8230;</p>
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