Men, feminism, and suspicion: a report on our NWSA panel

I’m in Atlanta, taking a break from presentations at the National Women’s Studies Association meeting. (I also need to get away from the exhibitor’s hall, before I buy so many books that I won’t be able to fit them in my suitcase home.)

Brian Jara, Tal Peretz, and I were the panelists for a discussion entitled Men in Anti-Sexist Activism: Problems and Potential. Brian teaches gender studies at Penn State; Tal, a graduate student at USC (and former student of Brian’s) is writing a dissertation on men doing feminist work. Our panel ran from 8:15-9:30AM — which meant a 5:15AM start for those of us whose body clocks are on Pacific time! The three of us had anticipated having ten to fifteen folks come to hear and participate; we were thrilled that more than forty showed. At the beginning, we asked the audience to pose questions for us about men and anti-sexist activism. Most of the questions asked for suggestions for more ways about recruiting men into doing anti-sexist (and explicitly feminist) work; others asked about ways to address the “white knight” or “pedestal” phenomenon, the dynamic in which men expect praise merely for being males doing this kind of work.

Brian noted that he’s fundamentally suspicious of men who come into his women’s studies classes and get involved in feminist clubs on campus. This isn’t out of his territorial desire to be the only male feminist (the one who can soak up the approbation); rather, it’s rooted in his experience of seeing so many men come into this work with motives ranging from the sexually predatory to the expectation that women’s studies is an intellectually undemanding “easy A”. Tal and I echoed Brian’s concern, acknowledging our own experience encountering men in feminist spaces whose motivations for being there are less than salutary. At the same time, we stressed the importance of encouraging men to explore feminism and start doing feminist work. The point, as I emphasized in my brief oration from the table, is to frame the reality of that suspicion as a reason for more men to get involved in anti-sexist campaigns in the classroom, on campuses, and in the “real world.”

I’ve written before about the “guilty until proven innocent” dynamic, most recently in this post on the “Schroedinger’s Rapist” question. We’ve got to recognize two things, I reiterated today: first, the reasons to fear men are legitimate, grounded in tragic reality more than in unjustified paranoia. Second, that sense of being feared, of being viewed as a potential predator at worst and cluelessly insensitive at best does real damage in the lives of an extraordinary number of men. We underestimate the degree to which young men are cognizant of the way in which they are constantly viewed with suspicion, and we often fail to take account of the toll that exacts on psyches and self-esteem. A great many young men work desperately hard, with varying degrees of success, to prove their “safety” and trustworthiness to a select handful of women. (Frequently, though not always, there is a sexual agenda that drives that effort.) Few young men recognize the solution lies in transforming an entire culture; an individual commitment to being a “good guy”, no matter how sincere and consistent, will do little to change a world in which many, perhaps most, women are raised to fear — again, with good reason — a great many, if not most, men. What’s “in it” (anti-sexist work) for men is not of course just the chance to be trusted, what’s in it for all of us is freedom from sexism, objectification, harassment and sexual violence.

To one degree or another, I’m increasingly convinced — and I reiterated this this morning — that male feminists have got to be fearless about doing work with young men.
We spend so much time agonizing about ways to craft and shape a feminist message that will appeal to men, worrying about either “going too easy” or “coming on to strong”. We worry about the ways in which we might reinforce male privilege by using that very same privilege to gain access to traditionally male spaces (like fraternity houses) in order to carry a feminist message. It’s very easy to get caught in analysis paralysis, in which the anxiety about not doing it right becomes, if not incapacitating, at least immensely limiting. I noted that I’ve been working with young men around issues of sexuality and violence prevention for more than twenty years, and teaching women’s studies courses since the mid-’90s. I’ve “done it wrong” over and over again, and been challenged and held accountable by my allies for the ways in which the message I’m carrying doesn’t go far enough, or reinforces unhealthy traditional notions, or goes dangerously close to “triggering” the survivors of abuse and violence. I’v revised my syllabus and my presentations over and over and over again, and intend to keep revising until the day I retire from this work. And as any reader of this blog knows, I’ve taken my share of criticism — sometimes heated — for my approach to feminism both in the classroom and in outside justice work. Some of that criticism has been unfair, some of it has been spot on and helpful. But the one virtue for which I will give myself credit is a willingness to hear that criticism and use it discerningly to get better as a teacher and a speaker and a male advocate for feminism.

All three of us ended by noting that there’s an enduring paradox in doing men’s work in feminist spaces. When men come into feminist spaces, the danger is that we refocus the discussion away from women and onto men, who already dominate the discussion in the “outside world.” There is a danger that men will co-opt and take over feminist work — and in getting paid to teach women’s studies, for example, as both Brian and I do, potentially depriving a woman with similar qualifications from a job in the field. Those are legitimate concerns. At the same time, when men withdraw from feminist space (either out of hostility or an exaggerated reverence for preserving an all-female environment) we make it all the more difficult to build the kind of community we need to build in order to bring about lasting change. Men doing men’s studies without dialogue with and input from feminist women are missing something essential. To a lesser but still real extent, the reverse may well be true.

We’re looking to create a subgroup within NWSA on “masculinities”, and Brian collected dozens of names from interested folks. It was a stimulating and exciting talk, and I’m looking forward to more.

Back to the exhibit hall and the sessions.

0 thoughts on “Men, feminism, and suspicion: a report on our NWSA panel

  1. Yes, all that. But I do see a positive good in having a few men in feminism, or on its fringes. For something so important to be pushed forward only by women makes it seem too much like a conflict between women and men, which is already how feminism’s enemies are eager to portray it. I’m not even sure that I can see gay men in feminism as entirely helping the cause, inasmuch as they obviously don’t have one motivation for sexism that the rest of us can’t help suffering from. Reconciling heterosexuality with gender justice is sometimes tricky for both women and men! But always having an eye to carrying the message to men, that’s a worthy thing to be doing. “The proper study of Mankind is Man”, after all. Or for the Christians, speck in neighbor’s eye, log in one’s own.

    But we still have to make sure it’s women’s show, and accept the status of tolerated guests, if we’re allowed in at all (and we have to be understanding and not resentful, if we aren’t allowed in). There might be times when that’s an easy role, if there are conflicts going on; far better to avoid taking sides, and keep one’s head down! But there are also times when a man might want to hold back from speaking, even if he could say something.

    And how easy it is to tell ourselves, “What a fine fellow I am” for being involved at all, and then again for any level of restraint we impose on ourselves! We have to believe we’re doing what we think is right, because it’s right, and we have to watch ourselves for any rewards that we’re getting, whether it’s smiles from pretty ladies or just in the form of self-donated ego boosts. There are links there with being a Christian, I suppose. Beware of those devices and desires, they’ll get you every time.

  2. I agree men can do much for feminism. I happily recognize Ampersand’s contribution to feminism even if I don’t always agree with him. I don’t consider him a second-class feminist though, and see no point to recreating hierarchies mirroring the kyriarchy.

    No viewpoint should be completely ignored simply because of a characteristic someone can do nothing against. I might be privileged in this regard as a trans woman, because I actually was able to do something about my supposed belonging to class man. Cissexual men and women cannot change this though. I would not fault them for their plumbing, their childhood, or their life experience.

    I will only fault them for what they say that actually is incorrect, biased negatively (drenching in cissexist assumptions for example), or otherwise strenghtening the inequalities of the world or supporting those in definitive.

    In other words, I will consider the words of cissexual people, as long as those words are based on more than faulty assumptions, and yes it’s more than possible that those people exist, in great numbers.

    I may be an optimist, but I don’t ask to see people’s genitals or hear about their childhood histories before declaring their discourse or arguments valid or invalid. I listen to them, then decide, based on their arguments itself, wether they sound right or sound fishy.

  3. I’m with Schala. I hear what you’re saying, Hugo and John, but I think that a movement for gender justice can’t build male-female inequality into its very premises–especially since gender is not a binary but a spectrum, as we are learning from transgender people.

  4. I had the opportunity to attend this session and left with a lot of great take-aways and things to consider. Thanks for all that you do!

    And it was nice to chat in the hallways of the book exhbit, where I too left with way too many great books!

  5. Hugo: Was the panel filmed or is there an audio recording? I can’t find anything about that on the site, and it just seems a shame that these things are only available to folks who live nearby and/or are part of academia…

  6. I don’t think it was filmed or recorded. That’s the frustrating thing about most of these panels, indeed. That’s part of the conversation, too — so many of us were focused on recruiting young men on college campuses. It’s so much more challenging to do men’s work in non-academic environments, indeed.

    And nice to chat with you, Colleen!